I second that roktiv, WOW!

roktiv: Nice work!!! You've got this one for sure.

Ok... no worries, I will fix that. Thank you for your feedback.

If you want to see what I have tryied for the banner (only the 1st one) go to this link:
http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?…nerns7.swf

Hey, whoever's posting NO-SPEC logos everywhere...in the nicest possible way...sling it!!! I've never been quite so enraged, by a group of seemingly pompous design professionals who have banded together under the banner of this pseudo-guerilla organisation to allegedly protect their beloved industry.

I've been a design professional working in international advertising and design agencies in London for nearly 12 years. Now on the freelance path, trying to grow my own business, I often rely on sites such as 99Designs, not merely for potential income, but also as a base to generate ideas and cross-pollinate thinking with other creatives during 'leaner' periods when regular clients and freelance agencies aren't so busy (such as now, coming up to the end of the financial year when everyone is tightening belts and budgets are practically runnning on vapour).

You cite the fact that designers potentially receive no recompense for their efforts, but yet this is no different to a agencies pitching against one and other for clients, unless you happen to be working back in the 1980's when agencies used to charge for pitches. Designers don;t have to submit work, nor are they tied into doing so to be a member of the website.

You also cite the lack of a 'client-designer' face-to-face relationship harmful to the industry and its standards. However, having worked with several clients from this site, via email and mobile phone, I've had a very clear understanding of the requirements of the brief and the client's expectations. Conversely, the clients have also understood the rationale of my work through clear writing and communication.

All in all, and given that most of the soundbites on the NO-SPEC website come from professionals based within design groups, it strikes me that sites such this have got agencies worried, and too bloody right they should be. They've been overcharging clients for years and this is the backlash.

If businesses are voting with their feet and seeking cheaper design through the internet, perhaps you should ask whether or not the design agencies and their professionals actually have a desirable product any more. And remember, cheaper rates, doesn't have to mean 'cheaper' work.

ty pb...still need more tweaks :P

any slogan on the logo?, thanks
datulakay