Cool/Fun Logo for Cool/Fun Bidness in Logo Design

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won
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Congratulations to the winner, prowlerconcepts!
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37
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$200
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Created:
Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:14:28 +0000
Ends:
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:14:28 +0000
Modified:
Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:16:40 +0000
Last Feedback:
Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:57:00 +0000
Comments:
45
Designers:
12
Feedback:
100%
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New music promotion/social media 2.0 site in need of a hot and fresh logo to represent the new way of popularizing new music

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  1. User
    AaronBeats
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    Fri, 16 May 2008 05:28:28 +0000
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    yea honestly i was quite surprised to not have gotten a response from anyone from 99designs, and just figured i couldn't really sit around and let my company and the people it will service be held up by the whole situation.

    other partners of mines who also run contests on here were shocked and a little confused by it as well

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    dziner
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    Fri, 16 May 2008 00:46:12 +0000
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    Yeah, I've contacted 99designs a few times myself, and they've always gotten back to me. I'm going to see what they have to say about this themselves.

    If the site owner doesnt know what to do to protect its clients, I'd like to know it.

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    JR
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    Thu, 15 May 2008 15:29:43 +0000
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    Aaron...
    that's odd that the 99 staff never got back to you..
    i've emailed them on several occasions with questions (or reporting other infringements)
    and they've always responded..
    sometimes it took a few days.. but i have to give them credit that i've always gotten a response.

    my guess is they didn't know just how to handle it and were hoping you resolved it, as you thankfully were able to..
    .. maybe this is the first time that this situation has ever happened on this site and they just didn't know WHAT to do?

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    AaronBeats
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    Tue, 13 May 2008 20:14:27 +0000
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    thanks to beograd as well for the 'crusade' for this on my behalf and support

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    AaronBeats
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    Tue, 13 May 2008 20:12:47 +0000
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    UPDATE:

    I have finally, as of this morning, secured the rights & ownership to the 'ganja bee' and any variations from the original creator, so the logo situation is taken care of. i will take just a few days to recoup the investment that i had to make into it, and i will be ready to award a winner in the stationery contest in a few days.

    this whole thing has kind of thrown the budget and scheduling off, but none-the-less we are marching forward! ;)

    so thank you all for your patience and support!

    JR & Dniner: I totally understand your frustration to the situation, and you are right in the statement that, who knows what would have happened if everything was already printed, but the fact is that I am so glad that this was caught and taken care of beforehand, because it may have not been as much of a forgiving situation.

    Also to JR, I actually had purchased Rickshow's design at the same time that I purchased prowler's. i agree that rick's was more polished and as an artist and illustrator myself, i really appreciate the artistry that went behind it, and had to purchase it lol! I had a hard time with this contest because of it, but i had to step away from my artistic side and listen to my market.

    i have a strategic way that i plan on using both, because they appeal to different audiences. but for now the biggest side of the audience likes the version that officially won, (although again, i bought both versions so there were technically 2 winners)

    Also, you are right that my time cannot be repaid, and because a lot of time was spent and wasted on this, and because the situation is resolved as far as my business, i don't have the time right now to go through all of the trouble of getting into a bunch of legal things. because i now own the logo, i would rather spend my time moving forward and building the company.

    what you guys and gals feel you have to do as far as this situation is your decision. i was only trying to provide a chance for redemption, but i understand that some will be satisfied and some will not.

    before i spoke with prowler and got his cooperation, i had tried contacting 99designs numerous times, and unfortunately to this day have still heard nothing from them. so at that point i figured trying to get help from them was going to hold up the progress of the company because there was no response. that is the reason why i decided to go about it this way, because i have other designers in the other contest who have been waiting patiently for me to award a winner.

    but if you feel you would like to pursue this, i understand, but at the same time i hope that prowler can earn the trust back from everyone.

    once again, i thank you all for your support and help with this, and i look forward to having clean future contests and hope that all of you great designers will participate in them:)
    -aaronbeats

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    dziner
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    Mon, 12 May 2008 20:16:11 +0000
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    First of all, I would like to know how Prowler Concepts came up with his business name. It is disturbing that he may have set up to do what he'd doing.

    Secondly, what is this? The Dr. Phil show? You do the crime, you do the time.

    If you steal at work are you going to get your hands slapped if you admit it and apologise? No. You'll get fired, because the trust is broken. If a child steals a candy are you going to take them back to the store and have them return 'some of it"? No.

    Prowler Concepts got caught doing copyright infringement. Because its illegal, he's lucky he's not on his way to court over a major lawsuit, brought by on the designer and 99Designs.

    This situation sets a precident, and says its okay to to it, we'll still love you, you'll just have to pay the money back if you get caught and then you can keep on doing it, or maybe not.

    This devalues the work of 'real' designers and it devalues the fact that this is illegal.

    I would like to know 99Designs stand on this.

    All in favour of Prowler Concepts being barred from this website, please email 99Designs and let them know. Personally, I don't want to be associated with people like that. He's luicky this time, he cqn still continue on with graphic design, as the public isn't aware of this, but not at this forum, not at 99Designs.

    He screwed up, and if he just gets barred from 99Designs, I think he gets off easy.

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    Beograd
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    Mon, 12 May 2008 11:11:56 +0000
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    First of all, all this could be taken as a nice lesson even though this isnt a learning lessons website.
    Prowlerconcepts did the right thing and in the end, hopefully, everyone will be satisfied. I know I already am.

    AaronBeats acted as a real professional and he managed to give all this a nice closure (hopefully that ganja-bee designer isnt some dork who asked for some crazy amount for it). 99 designs definitely needs people like AaronBeats is and the fact that he is not going to run away, take some legal actions which isnt good for any of us here, or anything else from staying and having faith in working with us here is a good thing.

    Also, prowlerconcepts could easily open another account but he did better... He proved himself as a designer who can play fair. Even though he is probably a young person who is tempted to do crazy stuff like this one was, I want to congratulate him. He turned out to be a cool guy and I want to apologize for being harsh and reconnoitring.

    Bad publicity is something that none of us wants so watch your steps people. ;)

    Cheers everyone!

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    JR
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    Mon, 12 May 2008 05:53:15 +0000
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    i know Aronbeat liked that one...

    but it would seem that once the issue came to light ..
    maybe Aaronbeats should have just reported him and gone with the second choice

    In my opinion, Rickshow's had a more polished and more memorable look,, and no legal mess. ; )

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    JR
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    Mon, 12 May 2008 05:46:54 +0000
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    why is prowler still allowed to be on this site..?

    so he apologized.. big whoope do..

    i'ts the old adage.. is he sorry.. or is he just sorry that he got caught..?

    This is a site to serve clients, not to "learn lessons".
    if he doesnt know it's illegal to copy a logo form someone, then he shouldn't be on this site. period.

    so theyr're working it out...

    What if he had not been caught til AFTER AaronBeats had printed stationery, brochures, tshirts, etc.
    would ArronBeats have been so forgving.. i doubt it.

    if he had copied a mayor company's logo and gotten sued.
    would just apologizing and giving back the mony been ok..? doubt it.

    seems to me that he already has cost the client a lot of TIME in trying to straighten his mistake...
    is he paying back Aaronbeat's time as well...?

    If any lawyer does something that every lawyer knows is wrong. theres a little something called disbarment..
    we can't take away his computer.. but i dont understand why he is allowed to be on this board... seems like he should have been automatically banned from this site...

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    TopLine Co
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    Sat, 10 May 2008 17:45:52 +0000
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    I have to appologize-- I didnt read through everything. Although I believe that he did know what copyrights are he did make a mistake and violate them. He is doing the right thing to fix that and we should not look back at what he did since he is making it right. It is going to take time for him to gain trust back but that is something he has to deal with

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