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The following designers have withdrawn all of their submitted designs:

• fbarriac,
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1. User

   M.Mahgoub

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   Sun, 04 Mar 2007 19:19:00 +0000

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   Feedback please

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   MaxLax44

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   Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:53:37 +0000

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   Everyone who made mirrored capital B's really needs to remove their entry besides Pixelised, he was the first to come up. All the rest are stealing his design.

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   D-signer.

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   Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:25:16 +0000

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   Yep that is my point, and the site doesn`t want to change their policy.
   concerning this.
   I have asked them if they wanted to make the site so that others Can not see your
   design, only the contest holder and yourself can see your design.
   At the end of the competition, all designs become viewable by everyone, and so we
   won`t have these discussions and we wouldn`t be able to steal eachothers idea`s.

   The question is, was it so original, I have done a mirrored B or db in many things
   I made, it`s almost standard, and just because Pixelised entered first doesn`t make
   the idea his property.

   So that is the problem, that could be solved easily, by the site. But they won`t.
   So if you have an idea similar to others how can you prove it was your own idea?

   And besides that I have seen idea`s of mine creep up in other logo`s, and was that
   an original idea by another person? Or was it copied?

   So I don`t think that everyone with an inverted B should remove their entry.

   You could say that my design was stolen from MaxLaxx44 and that Allan shepard
   did so too. Just we altered some.

   But I assure you I didn`t, but it could be argued I did.

   So, go to the site, tell them the same as I did, and they tell you they
   have moderators that keep on eyeon these things, and if they find it so,
   they will tell the person who they suspected of doing this, that he/she should remove
   their entry.
   Not enough for me, but that is how it is now.

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   Pixelised

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   Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:39:50 +0000

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   I don't have a problem with anyone using the mirrored 'B' idea, just so long as the entire concept is of their own making and doesn't take away from my design.

   There has to be some tolerance for ideas to be similar, so long as they retain their own uniqueness.

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   Winger

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   Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:41:38 +0000

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   lol That doesn't make sense, an inverted b is not a wholly unique idea that no one else can think of..

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   Pixelised

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   Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:45:25 +0000

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   Feedback from the CH would be good

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   whela001

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   Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:28:22 +0000

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   Thank you everyone for entering the contest! We will be posting individual comments but overall we have some ideas. We'd like to see the letters B B or B O B as a design or pattern that is more dynamic-- suggesting movement, action such as in sports or outdoor activity. Perhaps the letters themselves can become more symbolic or iconic (or incorporated with an icon) that represents or looks like a sports object ( a ball, a playing field, a person in action, ect.)

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   JKersh

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   Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:29:28 +0000

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   think about the mirrored B thing... I am an industrial design and what do you think all designers do? Steal Ideas its just part of the way it goes sorry

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   vkw91

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   Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:54:02 +0000

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   in a way, its a compliment if someone takes your ideas, but its not nice. I don't we necessary need to change the contest to hide entries, but to get rid of those who copy, maybe make the guidelines a little tougher...

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    MaxLax44

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    Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:46:43 +0000

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    Can I please have some feedback on the second entry?

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    Winger

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    Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:29:24 +0000

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    No you don't get it, like a mirrored b is not a totally new concept..

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    skipintro

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    Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:10:58 +0000

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    If you could claim a mirrored B ABBA would have done so in 1974.

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    aammoore

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    Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:09:20 +0000

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    Okay..... The contest holder doesn't seem to want that idea anyway. Pixelised said he was okay with it, so move on.

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    D-signer.

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    Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:54:13 +0000

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    So pulled my designs and I am out of here, Always wait for feedback reactions
    and now they have been, no feedback on my designs so they are pulled, and i pull myself
    from the site, It aint worth the time and trouble.

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    MaxLax44

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    Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:45:57 +0000

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    Could I please have feedback on the second entry in the contest?

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    whela001

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    Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:52:53 +0000

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    We're finding that some people are doing things more literal than symbolic. We like the simplicity of something symbolic that represents sports or action rather than an actual drawing. thanks for all your effort!

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    ses5909

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    Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:06:51 +0000

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    Please keep the discussion out of the contests. I just removed about 10 unnecessary comments from this contest. Thank you.

    Sara

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    logo_teufel

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    Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:39:16 +0000

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    hey guy,

    do you need something dynamic or something which looks more elegant ???

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    whela001

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    Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:05:10 +0000

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    http://www.funonthenet.in/content/view/344/31/
    The fedex, amazon, sun, and families logos are examples of how letters are used in a symbolic way. There aren't any packages in the fedex logo, no people in the families logo, no microchips in the sun logo and no faces of customers in the amazon logo- yet all of these things are implied by the letters. They are very subtle. (The square to the left of the sun logo looks like a microchip which is not mentioned in the comments on this web page)
    When I said the two opposing "B"'s look like two opposing players, I mean the letters themselves could represent the players. This is just my one interpretation of what the two "B"'s could represent or suggest-not the only interpretation possible. In the amazon logo, curving that "z" a little bit makes the logo look like a smiling face. If the "z" was flat it wouldn't work as well. The shape of the "s' and "u" in the sun logo square look like circuits on a computer chip. Altering the height in the "i" and "l" in the family logo make them look like people in a family. If I were to use the two "B"'s for a ballet company logo, I would probably choose type that looks very thin and flowing and has some swirling movement to it like a script letter rather than a block letter. If I was really good I would somehow design those "B"s to "suggest" (and if I could underline suggest here I would!) the form or movement of a dancer. I hope this helps to clarify what we mean, thank you everyone again for your efforts!

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    M.Mahgoub

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    Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:20:26 +0000

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    contest now abandoned, give feedback to reopen it!

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    whela001

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    Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:17:12 +0000

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    We didn't realize we had to give feedback to each individual entry, sorry about that- the contest is not suspended! We will give individual feedback but it will probably say the same things we've been posting to everyone!

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    M.Mahgoub

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    Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:35:51 +0000

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    we come up with something different, the problem is that you didn't tell us form the beginning you want the sporty-action style.

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    M.Mahgoub

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    Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:36:39 +0000

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    we will come up with something different, the problem is that you didn't tell us form the beginning you want the sporty-action style!

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    whela001

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    Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:38:27 +0000

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    Hello everyone, we have a new announcement. After considering the wide range of ideas you have so skillfully presented we have narrowed down a more specific direction for the logo. We feel the concept of the two B's opposing each other, evoking the image of two human forms facing, and in contact with each other as they would be in contact sports, really exemplifies the words "body on body". The key word here is evoke, we don't want literal drawings of human forms inside the B's or the B's themselves to become drawings of human forms. The B's themselves should be recognizable as B's and give the feeling of being athletes involved in a contact sport. Apply what we wrote in an earlier posting to an athlete:
    --If I were to use the two "B"'s for a ballet company logo, I would probably choose type that looks very thin and flowing and has some swirling movement to it like a script letter rather than a block letter. If I was really good I would somehow design those "B"s to "suggest" (and if I could underline suggest here I would!) the form or movement of a dancer. --
    You can use the B's themselves or the negative space inside the B's in a symbolic (very very symbolic) way to evoke 1. the feel of sports or athletes in contact (bold, dynamic, fast moving, strong ect.) or 2. the suggestion (very very symbolic) of a human shape. We would still like to see the words "body on body" as a subtext with the B's. thanks

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    whela001

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    Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:26:09 +0000

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    Attention participants:
    The contest director has just informed me that he would like to select a winner this Friday at 11:00 PM.
    Thanks again everyone for your entries!

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    d.signs.by.jake

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    Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:02:26 +0000

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    Do you consider payments via Paypal?

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    demonhale

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    Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:39:45 +0000

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    I hope the recent entries get feedback first before the winner is announced so we can make a last update... thank you

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    DynamicMK

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    Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:25:24 +0000

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    feedback for mine pls

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    whela001

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    Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:25:27 +0000

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    I didn't realize we are going to need some time after the contest closes on Friday at 11PM to review the final entries. So actual announcement of the winner will be made on Saturday at 11PM. Thanks for your entries and your patience!

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    Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:36:21 +0000

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    Feedback awaited.

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    wolv

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    Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:13:01 +0000

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    test

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    M.Mahgoub

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    Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:23:25 +0000

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    Congratulations claurus and Stan Kenmuir.

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    DynamicMK

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    Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:28:42 +0000

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    congrats... nice job

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    claurus

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    Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:59:57 +0000

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    Thanks for congrats guys. Thanks for the contest whela